Comments on: Rudhyar on Personhood, Schuon on the Underlying Unity http://adreampuppet.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/rudhyar-on-personhood-schuon-on-the-underlying-unity/ "All the things to which I give myself grow rich and spend me." Rainer Maria Rilke Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:23:05 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Michael Hawkins http://adreampuppet.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/rudhyar-on-personhood-schuon-on-the-underlying-unity/#comment-23212 Michael Hawkins Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:12:24 +0000 http://adreampuppet.wordpress.com/?p=274#comment-23212 Thanks once again, Gariban, for all the work you do in translating, and for the amazing work you put into comments at this blog. You are a good friend on top of all that. I still plan to post some of your translations on the front page here -- you work deserves as wide an audience as possible! Blessings, Michael Thanks once again, Gariban, for all the work you do in translating, and for the amazing work you put into comments at this blog. You are a good friend on top of all that. I still plan to post some of your translations on the front page here — you work deserves as wide an audience as possible!

Blessings,
Michael

]]> By: Gariban http://adreampuppet.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/rudhyar-on-personhood-schuon-on-the-underlying-unity/#comment-23211 Gariban Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:03:45 +0000 http://adreampuppet.wordpress.com/?p=274#comment-23211 Hello All, I liked this line of Frithjof Schuon on above writing: "the presentiment of a timeless Beatitude. For the Origin is at once within us and before us; time is but a spiral movement around a motionless Center. " See the representation of motionless Center what my master calls "Secret of Zero/ Aqdas point / Noor al-mim/ Black hole/Light of Muhammad (PBUH)/ First Manifestation point/ Black Stone in Kaabah" in the link. I tried to translate and make it as clear as possible for english readers. But some words are difficult to translate. This document sheds some light on the Muhammadian adhan recited from the minarets of the mosques. The Adhan has been seen by the followers of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in their dreams before it was put in to practice. This is the morning adhan for the ones who are sleeping to wake them up to stand on prayer. One of my colleagues in England went to Turkey for a holiday and came back to me with a complaint that imams were shouting from the minarets in the morning and he could not sleep because of them. This reminds me one of the sufi master , "Dr.Munir Derman's " saying: "Son, Do not sleep much, one day you will already sleep for a long time". http://www.muhammedinur.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=3905 With Peace and Love Gariban Hello All,
I liked this line of Frithjof Schuon on above writing:

“the presentiment of a timeless Beatitude. For the Origin is at once within us and before us; time is but a spiral movement around a motionless Center.
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See the representation of motionless Center what my master calls “Secret of Zero/ Aqdas point / Noor al-mim/ Black hole/Light of Muhammad (PBUH)/ First Manifestation point/ Black Stone in Kaabah” in the link.

I tried to translate and make it as clear as possible for english readers. But some words are difficult to translate. This document sheds some light on the Muhammadian adhan recited from the minarets of the mosques. The Adhan has been seen by the followers of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in their dreams before it was put in to practice. This is the morning adhan for the ones who are sleeping to wake them up to stand on prayer. One of my colleagues in England went to Turkey for a holiday and came back to me with a complaint that imams were shouting from the minarets in the morning and he could not sleep because of them. This reminds me one of the sufi master , “Dr.Munir Derman’s ” saying: “Son, Do not sleep much, one day you will already sleep for a long time”.

http://www.muhammedinur.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=3905

With Peace and Love
Gariban

]]> By: adreampuppet http://adreampuppet.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/rudhyar-on-personhood-schuon-on-the-underlying-unity/#comment-22418 adreampuppet Fri, 02 May 2008 13:24:34 +0000 http://adreampuppet.wordpress.com/?p=274#comment-22418 I don't know if the world is ready, Nick. We'll just have to follow our hearts and hope that others wake up within themselves, God willing.... I don’t know if the world is ready, Nick. We’ll just have to follow our hearts and hope that others wake up within themselves, God willing….

]]> By: Nick Raaum http://adreampuppet.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/rudhyar-on-personhood-schuon-on-the-underlying-unity/#comment-22415 Nick Raaum Fri, 02 May 2008 12:50:43 +0000 http://adreampuppet.wordpress.com/?p=274#comment-22415 It sure does seem like Religio Perennis is a crucial realization mankind must make to move forward out of our mess. I wonder though how this will look. Even if it is true that the Absolute truth of most religions is the same, the outwardly practiced relative form of different religions are almost all in oppostion to each other. The only resolution I can see is for each of us to get busy and realize the Absolute truth of our respective religion. Then perhaps if many people have penetrated the inner truths a new and deeper dialogue between religions can begin. It sure does seem like Religio Perennis is a crucial realization mankind must make to move forward out of our mess. I wonder though how this will look.

Even if it is true that the Absolute truth of most religions is the same, the outwardly practiced relative form of different religions are almost all in oppostion to each other. The only resolution I can see is for each of us to get busy and realize the Absolute truth of our respective religion. Then perhaps if many people have penetrated the inner truths a new and deeper dialogue between religions can begin.

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